Freedom is Only an Idea

Freedom: exempt from external authority, interference, restriction, etc., as a person or one’s will, thought, choice, action, etc.; independent; unrestricted.


Land of the free, we have rights, we have choice, free speech, free will and all that jazz. Are you sure? Have you ever stepped back to look at the situation, take away the excuses for each issue/law/force and look at it as black and white as you can get?

We do not have freedom but a guise of it. We are allowed to walk around making as many small choices as we want to, we live in our own home where we believe that no one has the right to enter unless we deem it so – or a warrant is produced-, we believe in whatever religion-or none- that we wish, we raise our children by our decisions until they are old enough……. or so we thought.

How easy is it for CPS/CAS to come into your home and take away your child? You’re not doing anything wrong you say? Well frankly, that doesn’t matter anymore. There are so many stories of children being taken away from loving homes, put on drugs, sexually assaulted; only to have the decision overturned, maybe an apology and here’s your kids back, sorry we broke them. (I will sit down and gather them up to show how often and easily it happens)

Authorities are overstepping their boundaries when it comes to our children. Yes we need some sort of organization in place to help kids who are actually in troubled homes and need to go somewhere new. The places that they go need better monitoring because most seem like being in Tartarus. Parents have every right to raise their children and make proper decisions for them until they are old enough to do so themselves. We choose what they eat, what they learn, where they go and so on. We make the choice to have them vaccinated or not and should not be vilified for doing so. We make the choice whether to put them on drugs or not and should not have them taken away because we refuse to turn our kids into drooling zombies.

The States round up fast when it comes to things like this but it seems in Canada we are a little ‘slow to the ball’ and it makes me wonder how bad things really are here, when there’s no one speaking out.

So today I want you to meet Ayn. As of today she’s been away from her dad for 103 days. So what did he do? First question that comes up right, well he didn’t beat her, or sexually assault her; she wasn’t locked up in a room, neglected or the like. Her dad isn’t a drug user or drunk, but in the eyes of CPS he cannot possibly be able to handle 3 kids all by himself. So they “lightened his load” and took his daughter from him. She is in a foster home that does not properly care for her and pays a 15yr old to watch and administer “medication” to her.

So that leaves us with Warrior Dad or poorly monitored foster home of Tatarus. Hmmm I wonder which would be better for this sweet little girl. No doubt it will take countless more days for anything to be done and it is heartbreaking. While each day passes Ayn is slowly being lost. She is being medicated against her father’s wishes, is not allowed to see him and no one is listening.

What about when it happens to you? Have to put a lock on your sons door because he wanders, choose not to vaccinate because it is potentially harmful, refuse anti-psychotics for you 3yr old; they may come after you. Your “load may be too heavy” and your choices deemed unacceptable even if they are for the health of your children. The freedom of choice is slowly, slyly being taken away from us. Don’t believe the hype, fight for your right, fight for your freedom.



For more information on Ayn please also visit the Facebook Site and a special thanks to Jean Nicol for speaking out about this injustice

Ahh The Smell of Misinformation in the Morning

This was sent to me from a friend of mine and my comment turned out too long so it became a post. Enjoy!

Well First off I love how they have to “track down” these unvaccinated kids, like they are hiding from doing something illegal. It gives the mindset to those watching that going unvaccinated is partial to being a criminal. No one wants to be a criminal, unless of course like me you have a need to rebel. Compliance is key, even if that compliance is brought about by fear of consequence. That is a basis of our society though and it’s not surprising that it is being used here.

Second : This and this shows quickly that your endeavour is redundant, because the vaccine doesn’t work and is more than likely doing even greater harm by spreading whooping cough. I bet the solution to this will be either to vaccinate more, or to make a stronger vaccine. Sigh, when will they ever learn

Third and the biggest piss off of all: the negligent parent remark. Suddenly by not injecting a manufactured product into our children’s bodies, we are neglecting them. This of course can and in a lot of cases does, lead to CAS/CPS being called or students marched into courtrooms being forcibly vaccinated. Vaccines are a CHOICE, but for how long? Doctors and nurses in some places are being told to get a vaccine or get out. Schools in almost every case; do not inform parents that they have a choice, do not tell parents that their child does not need a vaccination to go to school and they never say, it is NOT negligence when you refuse any or all vaccines. Scare tactics are being used across the globe, people are starting to ask questions and health authorities are getting nervous and starting to get pushy. Whether they truly know what damage they are doing, I cannot say for sure. I’m certain a lot feel that they truly are doing the right thing. This isn’t about what people feel is right though, not when you get down deep into it. This is about our right slowly being taken away and this is about the children silently sacrificed for “the greater good” of everyone else.

There are other tactics used in here. In the beginning they use the words “state mandated”. This makes people believe that you must get vaccinated. In fact the only thing that is mandated is proof of immunization or exemption. Yes it is getting harder in some areas to get exemptions and that’s one reason why I love living in Canada. We are far from perfect though, they pull the same tactics here as everywhere else. Convincing parents that in order to attend school your child must be vaccinated; This is just not true.

Blaming the reason for late/not vaccinating on “family dynamics”, “hardships” and “truant” kids causes people to feel that they are in trouble for not vaccinating, by associating these words with those not compliant with “vaccine recommendations”.

“Kids will not be allowed back to school if they haven’t been vaccinated”

This is what I’m talking about. That is not true. Kids will not be allowed back to school unless they have proof of vaccination, proper titers level or proof of exemption. That is what should be stated, because that is the truth. What they are reporting is misinformation. It’s very sly and it’s very dirty playing.

The point is the forcible nature that not only health care authorities are using but also the school system. Going door to door to check vaccination records and carrying on hand the vaccine for quick-and-easy vaccination, absurd. Does this “nurse” follow proper procedure and give you the low down on vaccines including the side effects, does this “nurse” also stick around to monitor in case of a reaction and does she have a sucker to give the patient when she’s all finished vaccinating them?

Please Pay Attention People


    How many people read the headline and move on? How many read the article without actually understanding it? A long time ago I work with a woman who was attending college and was at that time enrolled in media class. She learned many interesting things in that class about commercials, TV, movies and news reports; she shared a lot of interesting things with me. I have to thank her, for it helped me a lot when it came to understanding studies and stirring my interest in anthology, sociology and psychology.

    So are we hearing more and more about the HPV vaccine because it’s just the next one on the ‘anti-vaxxers’ list? Of course that’s what you’ll hear or something to the same effect. Observations speak a different story I’m afraid and I’m sure someone could easily put together the data to prove it.

With all the eyes turned towards the vaccine autism area, HPV slowly came out and was being offered in schools. Yes there were a few nods its way, but it wasn’t even a whisper against the pro and anti sides fighting, with fence sitters up high watching the circus it was becoming. What an image. There has been some good come of all the fighting, these ‘fence sitters’ and even some that were on the pro side are paying attention more. They are seeing things they would’ve once missed and they are also learning (by example) how to speak out about what they’ve observed. So when young girls started having reactions to the HPV vaccine, parents, family and even friends; reported it, opened their mouths, made videos, wrote blogs and started campaigns. What was once a nod became a full on head turning and information was being gathered about everything HPV.

A pot of water will continue boiling until the water runs dry. It isn’t until the house catches fire that someone notices the burner left on.

So enough of that, let’s get on to the next article


“In most people, HPV is harmless: The immune system fights it off. But in some people, for unknown reasons, the viruses persist and can cause cancer. ”

Should we use a ‘tactic’ here and point out the word most. Like one side says ‘adverse reactions are rare, for most people vaccines are harmless therefore everyone should get them’. If HPV is harmless in most people then, most people do not need to bother getting the HPV vaccine. Correct? Maybe it should be available for those who feel themselves to be ‘at high risk’ for acquiring HPV instead of being ‘recommended’ for all.

If you’re going to take anything out of this it should be that; HPV does not commonly cause cancer. It is also good to know that even if HPV is common among people, it usually clears all by itself without any harmful side effects.


“Many scientists think that the vaccine can prevent those diseases as well. ”

Making assumptions only passes along false information and this can have a harmful effect. This vaccine treats HPV, to profess that it treats cancer of any kind is in fact false information.


“This vaccine has been portrayed as ‘the sex vaccine,’ ”

Wrong, it’s portrayed as a highly dangerous vaccine. The concern that this will allow or even promote their children to have sex or lots of it, is not at the top of the list. Their children possibly dying, permanently injured or unable to have children is the number one concern, period.


“Family doctors were negotiating with reluctant, confused parents”

Instead of ‘negotiating’ with parents deemed reluctant, they should be addressing their concerns and accepting whatever decision they choose to make. Too many times do I hear doctors getting irritated that their patients are asking questions about vaccines. Too effin bad, that is your job. You are responsible for thoroughly explaining any medical procedure before administering to a patient. The patient should be fully aware of all possible benefits and side effects. If a patient has concerns, you are not doing your job. If you do not properly address those concerns, you are continuing to no do your job.


“There’s probably no reason why it should be 11 or 12, as opposed to 5 or 6 or even birth,” Dr. Willoughby said. “If it were being given in kindergarten, I don’t think would be an adherence problem.”

Easily justified like the Hep B vaccine and love how it isn’t even considered a choice anymore, it is an adherence problem. The solution to parents concerns? Give the vaccine sooner that should squash their fears. Further worry that it won’t last long enough to be effective? We can always make boosters. Doesn’t anyone else see how ridiculous this is becoming? There are no safety studies for giving this vaccine to children that young. With so many concerns already raised, shouldn’t we be taking a little more pre-caution?


“But medical groups like the pediatrics academy have not recommended it”

Hmmm, I wonder why this is. Perhaps they know as well as us paying attention, that there is no plausible need to ‘recommend’ this vaccine. Maybe they are waiting on proper safety studies, investigation into reaction claims or they know that HPV is not deadly enough to purport a recommendation to the general population.


“Several hundred thousand women a year in the United States need surgery for precancerous lesions caused by the virus, and many more are treated for other cervical abnormalities linked to the infection.”

So instead of correcting one problem we just decide to make a vaccine instead. Obviously our surgical procedures need to be re-examined if more and more patients are acquiring infection after the fact. I wonder where they get their stats from since it was stated that only a few women develop cancer from this virus. If several hundred being affected is cause enough for a vaccine, then you would think the several hundred thousand claims of regression into autism by vaccines would warrant proper investigation, at the very least.


“The vaccines could prevent many of those cases and spare women the surgery, which can be painful and nerve-racking, and may impair a woman’s ability to carry a pregnancy to full term, Dr. Saslow said.

Have any numbers on that ‘may impair’ because it probably won’t be too difficult to pull numbers from ‘may be infertile due to HPV vaccination’ for a comparison of risk vs benefit since I know how that’s a ‘big thing’ for some groups. Also it really isn’t stated whether the impairment of a woman’s ability to carry a pregnancy full term is due to the virus or the simple fact that surgery is looking more and more dangerous. This should prompt us to re-assess our surgical procedures. Maybe this is a man made problem that is occurring and has nothing to do with HPV at all. I cannot say for certain since I have absolutely no clue where this doctor is pulling this information from.


“The most common side effect is a sore arm from the shot. Though fainting has been reported, Dr. Jackson said that teenagers were more likely than younger children to faint after any injection.”

Of course that is the most common side effect being reported, when no one is looking into the thousand of reported side effects. Not sure about you guys but I personally don’t recall any of my teenage classmates fainting when we received our hep B in grade 7. I am shocked that people are actually falling for this bullshit excuse they are using for all these girls fainting. It resolves them from actually thoroughly examining what is going on. It’s time for ‘health authorities’ to stop dismissing our concerns.


“She worried about whether the vaccine was safe. As a Roman Catholic who believes in abstinence until marriage, she also wondered whether the vaccine would somehow send the wrong message, and act as “a gateway for young women to think they have sexual freedom.” Ms. Boettiger, a nursing student, found reassurance in the endorsement of the vaccine by the disease centers and other medical groups, and in its acceptance by the National Catholic Bioethics Center. Her father and her husband, the girls’ father, both died of cancer. “Our family suffered a loss from cancer,” she said. “It is not a battle I want to fight anytime soon.” She has had her two older daughters vaccinated, and will do the same for the youngest. ”

This woman was worried about the safety of the vaccine but constant reassurance from the health care system and the vaccine’s strong yet very false message of cancer preventer; made her change her mind. Will she regret this decision in the future? We’ll have to wait and see. Some mothers have and some have yet to determine either way, because one side effect being claimed is infertility/inability to conceive. This side effect will take awhile to be seen on a large scale if it exists, because with vaccination occurring so young (and suggested even younger) we will not know until these girls decide to try and conceive. Thinking hypothetically, if this were true even to some degree and we were to vaccinate for hpv at birth, the consequences have a possibility of being quite large. If her daughters do react to this vaccine, I wish her the best of luck because no one will take responsibility, no one will help and you are basically on your own in dealing with whatever reaction occurs.


Whatever you do, please make sure you check out every study, every story and question your doctor until you are fully satisfied one way or the other. Do not let anyone ‘brush over’ or dismiss your questions, do not allow yourself to be ‘pushed into’ anything and if it doesn’t ‘feel right’; trust your instincts.












The Ever Expanding Loss of Information

    News reports have such conflicting information. You read stories like I’ve previously pointed out about how more and more children are going unvaccinated and spreading disease. Then on another article you read about a mumps outbreak where “of New Jersey cases, 77 percent were vaccinated”. You have parents wondering how their child could possibly be infected when they were fully vaccinated. Yes, we know that vaccines are not 100% but apparently these parents do not. Why is this? Is it the big gaping hole in our health care system when it comes to vaccines? Obviously parents aren’t being fully informed about vaccines. In some places it is required to give a hand out to parents, about the vaccines that their children are receiving. The information listed on these sheets are very limited, usually citing on average four side effects and thoroughly hyping up the wonderful magic of vaccines. Honestly though, how many of you have even seen one of these sheets, how many of your doctors have actually discussed vaccines in detail before you or your children receive them and how many of you were ASKED whether you would like them or not? Vaccines should be opt-in not opt-out.

    I read a lot of these news reports, basically anything that comes my way or that I find on my own and besides a lot of similar tactics there is also a common lack of information. One thing that rarely appears in any of the articles regarding ‘outbreaks’ is how many infected were vaccinated vs unvaccinated; you would think that with ‘them’ going around touting that “unvaccinated kids are spreading disease”, they would proudly display these numbers. This day and age everyone has records of their vaccinations and since it’s becoming much more difficult to opt-out or more frequently ‘recommended’ to receive, people usually keep them close at hand. The public should be made aware of these numbers, obviously health care heads are keeping track and if they aren’t? Then we are in a world of hurt and we need to re-establish our health care system.

    Obviously it’s not talked about in this article (since there is rarely hospitalization of mumps) but articles usually stress the numbers of hospitalizations due to ‘outbreaks’. They rarely ever tell you what individuals are actually hospitalized for. Do a lot of digging and you can find the answer; scared parents, doctors who turn people towards the hospital because they don’t know how to deal with a particular disease or their inability to diagnose it properly, fever or dehydration. Having that knowledge changes your perspective of such articles. Yes disease can have devastating results, it happens very rarely but it does in fact happen. The problem is that in most general cases of infection, the facts are stretched. Say for instance, a child contracts measles and ends up in the hospital. This child is in the hospital because he is dehydrated, he was sick and his body uses more fluids than usual, thus if he doesn’t consume more liquids than usual he will become dehydrated. This isn’t exactly a hospitalization due to mumps but of course it will be listed as so or stated as so in whatever article will cover the story.

    Another of the biggest factors not mentioned in articles, is prevention leading up to infection and also during. With everyone relying on vaccination they no longer bother to know sign or symptoms of the things they vaccinate for. They don’t expect their child to come down with something they vaccinate for because most truly believe that if you vaccinate then you do not have to worry. Take the chicken pox vaccine for instance. Three reasons why parents choose to give this to their child; it’s on the ‘recommended’ schedule and/or never knew there was an option not to receive it, it is much easier than having to deal with a child infected with chicken pox and my child could/will possibly DIE if I don’t vaccinate for this now deemed deadly disease. It’s like the whole deal with combination shots; it’s cheaper and so much easier for parents to only have to come in for say 5 appointments as opposed to 20 (not real numbers but you get the picture). Parents just are not concerned because they put all their faith in vaccines.

So an infected child/adult could go around spreading this disease to others without knowing the implications of such. The next stage of prevention would be when said infected person visits the doctor or hospital. As we are starting to see; doctors and hospitals have also relied on vaccination so much that they usually cannot diagnose diseases we are seeing, properly at first visit. This in turn causes further spreading and also the disease goes untreated in the individual. The next step of prevention is more after the fact. What do we now do with this ‘outbreak’ and how do we stop it in the future. Most places do not have proper quarantine procedures in place or since they are hardly used, usually go unimplemented. The future looks equally bleak because the answer is usually the same; give them more vaccines.

Outbreak of measles you say? Most of them vaccinated you say? Well we can’t have our children getting sick. Here is a solution that is sure to stop this from happening again. Give them another round or two of vaccines. Don’t believe me, start reading the paper. After a number of’ outbreaks’ a push goes through the schools to vaccinate children. This is the only solution they have and that is very dangerous. We are not prepared to deal with a mass outbreak of something that a vaccine no longer ‘controls’ or stops from spreading. Our backup plan for a vaccine failure is more vaccines, already infected give a vaccine, likely exposed give a vaccine and even if your chances are.0000001% of infection, yep get a vaccine. We are setting ourselves up for disaster by not looking at alternatives or permanent means to deal with disease. Remember vaccines are all about PREVENTION; they have no place in actually dealing with disease. They are basically a ‘wash away’, let’s just sweep measles under the rug there and we won’t have to think about it anymore. There’s only so much you can sweep under a rug before the dirt starts to leak out.

Labels, Ingredients and Amount

It’s not so much that people are starting to look at labels more, like it’s some new fad that everyone’s neighbour is doing. No, in reality it’s that we distrust what is going into our products and/or we have sensitivities, allergies or other health conditions that prevent us from consuming some or even most products available at the average grocery store.

People are slowly paying attention, they are realizing that they really don’t know much about what’s in the food they consume or how it’s prepared, shipped and sometimes even where it came from.

We know that organic is better, but are now realizing that just because it says organic, it may not be.

It doesn’t start or even end with our food.

Since this is an autism/vaccine blog I’ll relate it to that, but it applies to many other things as well.

A substance at certain levels –doses, quantity, (take your pick)- tests as dangerous, deadly or otherwise will make us very ill. If you reduce that amount the resulting reaction will not test the same. It could be considered less dangerous or in the short term / physically appear to be safe and therefore becomes the recommended level. This of course should change if it is discovered that the recommendation is in fact not safe and should be taken very seriously when put into question by numerous people.

Unfortunately this recommendation is based on a one shot/one substance exposure.

But so what right? What does it matter since the amount is safe and it’s not like you’re going to get exposed to said substance enough times to even matter and doesn’t our bodies just clear that all out anyway?

You know it probably wouldn’t matter, wouldn’t have even come into question, just like what’s in our food, until we had to.

The concern basically is accumulative amount. It’s not that complicated to understand so it’s a wonder why this concern is clearly being dismissed instead of honestly being looked into.

We know that through testing of umbilical cords after birth that are babies are being exposed to more chemicals than before and that they are in fact passing through the placenta. You add in the possible “direct exposure” like rhogam, flu and other shots. Antibiotics, prenatal vitamins and other products that may have to be taken during pregnancy should be accounted for as well. Very shortly after a baby is born – depending on where you are mind you – they receive neonatal eye care, hep b and a vitamin k shot. Then begins the vaccination schedule that most commonly is –please correct me if I’m wrong – 1-3 shots, consisting of single or combo, fighting 4-8 “vaccine preventable diseases” in one sitting, that usually happens at 2, 4, 6, 12, 18 and 24mths to start with. I don’t need to lay out the whole schedule since I think you get the picture.

Again, who cares right, since the body has a function that removes toxins and all that.

That’s true….to a degree.

We honestly don’t know for sure how much our bodies can handle at one time, but this is only part of the concern. The concern is children who have difficulty or cannot expel certain substances from their bodies like you or I.


Well that is still in debate and until we know why, we should be taking precautions or at least even looking into the issue.

Is it possible to test children before, during or after vaccination to make sure it is safe for them?

Can an alternate schedule or even alternate way of vaccination be made available to at risk children?

Can we change the recommendation to stop risk to more children?

These are the questions that our “Health Care Superiors” should be asking. Instead of placing their focus on trying to sway non-vaxxers and people with questions about vaccines and instead of pretending to address concerns, they should be addressing them properly so that people can actually feel safe and comfortable with vaccinating or not vaccinating.

Whether you choose to vaccinate or not; doing so blindly is only going to hurt you and others.

Going further into the IOM report

Before we dive right into the preface, let’s count how many times the word rare is used. I count seven. Pay attention to this, it is a very sly way of downplaying things. If you haven’t kept up here it is simply; one side states that vaccines do cause reactions but very rarely, so the benefit outweighs the risk and the other side is asking for this issue to be looked at properly because what they are looking at shows, that adverse reactions are more common than we had past thought.

Since it is still in question –even after reading through this report- this is really a perfect example of how “they” are trying to constantly push that all this is rare, like winning the lottery. You may hear about it but the likelyhood of it ever happening to you is pretty slim.


Now there’s a lot I could nitpick about enough to fill up a couple of posts but instead I’ll just skim over them since we’ve all probably heard them several times already and we do have 667 pages to cover.

Thankfully we have a bullet system 😉

  • Vaccines being the leading cause of dwindling outbreaks/us not seeing disease much anymore is in question
  • Because we don’t see these outbreak of disease anymore and aren’t afraid of them is NOT the reason the majority choose to not vaccinate. This myth is also passed around very frequently
  • This article reviewed 12,000 peer-reviewed articles, they did not conduct any new research
    • It is interesting to note that this comes out shortly after a similar review of articles about vaccine safety, only they came to quite the opposite conclusion
    • “….some issues simply cannot be resolved with currently available epidemiologic data…in addition even very large epidemiologic studies may not detect or rule out rare events”
      • We know this already, have been saying it for years and yet the methods have not changed
      • “Some adverse events caused by vaccines are also caused by the natural infection
        • Please keep this in the back of your mind, it is very important. I’m working on a post for it but for now we should note that this only shows that some adverse events will go undetected.
        • “Alleged adverse effects that appear to be immune mediated, as many of them are, are more challenging, in part because the biology is not completely understood”
          • They proceed to go on about pre-existing conditions. These conditions that may have no ill effect on the individual if they were not vaccinated.

What you really get from this preface is that the methods for investigating adverse reaction claims cannot usually determine whether the reaction is from the vaccine or not. Add to the fact that most of the population isn’t even aware that you can report these reactions and that most doctors outwardly dismiss reaction claims and you get a whole different idea than the previous news article about this report is stating. This is not reassuring for the very rare reaction claims. It will be interesting to see if they take any action after this has made the rounds. We need better monitoring better investigation methods and better safety protocols before injection.


If 100,000 kids get a particular vaccine and 1,000 have reactions, the current methods would most likely determine that one or less had an actual reaction. Why? Because 300 had a pre-existing condition that without that vaccine no one would have known about or be affect by, 300 did not have enough data so was only concluded as correlation not causation and the remaining will be dismissed because it wasn’t that particular vaccine that caused the reaction but rather the accumulation of vaccine up till that point, with this last set showing visible reaction.


Like it or not, this is our current situation. Although the news about this report is only saying that this is a reassurance to those who are concerned for vaccine safety. So far I don’t find this reassuring at all.

Too busy for more…..Another news piece

Not surprisingly this is being slugged across the pro-vax groups as an example to vaccinate. However if you read past the headline, you can see that things are not so cut and dry. According to the mother the child’s fever started the day after their return home. She waited a few days before going to the doctor and the doctor gave her Tylenol for the child and sent her home.
You must be very blind not to see a few things wrong with this picture.
Firstly not mentioned is the fact that; if you knew previously that your child had no protection against a disease, that is probably more common where you are going then here, you should probably have taken more precautions. I know this can be difficult when visiting family or even being able to tell who is sick but there is risk when you travel to other places with a child under 3.
If your child has a fever for more than 24hrs you should consult a doctor.

Your doctor should know better than to send home a child with Tylenol when his fever has occurred longer than a day.

The biggest thing to note; Tylenol depletes glutathione for starters, which is essential for the liver to do it’s job. How does that relate to fever? I suggest you go do some reading.
I’m writing all this out trying to get a point across, not to diminish what this child went through or a “serves you right mom and doctor for being morons”. I’m honestly glad that this child is ok and seems to have recovered without any difficulties.

My point is that there should be more focus on the actual disease, identification, treatment, quarantine and prevention than; vaccination, you should have vaccinated, vaccinate some more and well, we’ll just have to vaccinate younger.
A bit of info to think about in this article is that the death rate for measles –which is due to complications not actual measles- is 1 in 1,000 – this is a world statistic. I think that this is pretty damn good considering that “measles is quite common/rampant in other countries” according to papers and the fact that since, a majority of places that measles is “quite common/rampant” has poor sanitation and poor health care it isn’t surprising that the death rate is higher than here.

I am curious if there is any numbers available on the rate of death or even complications from measles in US/Canada vs the number of reactions (accepted and claimed)